12-01 02:03 - '[quote] Yeah it must be the illusive (((central bankers))) and their (((secret agenda))) preventing mass adoption! (((They))) are terrified of bitcoin and want to derail it at any cost. This is literally the only explanatio...' by /u/libertycannon removed from /r/Bitcoin within 0-7min
If it weren't for interference from the Central Banks, I would imagine BTC would have already taken off in a bigger way than has been seen to date.
05-01 22:54 - '[quote] Honestly I hate all this who's satoshi drama. Craig can either provide the signature or gtfo / [quote] The thing is that if Bitcoin adoption was growing you'd see more of these type of transactions. Lots non-batch...' by /u/AroundChicago removed from /r/Bitcoin within 41-51min
How do you feel about him making the claim that Craig Wright is Satoshi ? Do you support this claim ?
Honestly I hate all this who's satoshi drama. Craig can either provide the signature or gtfo
When you don't batch, almost every transaction creates two outputs, one for the payment one for change.
The thing is that if Bitcoin adoption was growing you'd see more of these type of transactions. Lots non-batched transactions means that individual people are spending their Bitcoin on goods and services. As apposed to companies like Coinbase using batching to provide withdrawals. My point here is that people using their bitcoin to buy goods and services (non-batch txs) is a much better signal of adoption than people moving the bitcoin between their wallet and exchanges (batched txs). So however you slice it - more outputs == more adoption.
The Bitcoin ABC Github is a ghost town and all communications are done privately
Dude it says in the damn title that the [github repo]1 is a only mirror. It's not a sin to use something other than github. If they want to use [their own servers]2 than so be it. All discussion on [their site]3 is open for everyone to see. There's nothing secret about this.
You guys issue public statements for christs sake.
I don't see a problem with public statements....
It's totally centralized
Please tell me how having multiple dev teams is centralized but have one monolithic dev team is not.
Bitcoin development and discussion on the other hand is fully transparent and follow the same BIP workflow that Satoshi followed.
03-27 15:38 - '[quote] / It’s not 1MB anymore, we’ve seen [2MB+ blocks] repeatedly now, the [Segregated Witness] soft fork was an effective increase to 4MB once most people adopt it. / It also fixed transaction maleability added Script...' by /u/paperraincoat removed from /r/Bitcoin within 11-21min
Why at 1MB and not X is what im asking.
It’s not 1MB anymore, we’ve seen [2MB+ blocks]1 repeatedly now, the [Segregated Witness]2 soft fork was an effective increase to 4MB once most people adopt it. It also fixed transaction maleability added Script versioning and bunch of other features. ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: paperraincoat 1: coi*telegr*ph.com/n**s/*he-cur*ent*sta*e*of-t***b*t*oin-ne*w*rk*and-*t**bi*gest-bloc*/amp 2: e**b*tcoin.i*/w**i/*egrega*ed_*itness Unknown links are censored to prevent spreading illicit content.
12-19 00:33 - 'Deleted comment before I could reply ... / [quote] Without Segwit Adoption , larger blocks, LN etc and with increasing adoption, it absolutely will go to 1m 2m etc, and low fee tx *already* never get confirmed. / It hasn't...' by /u/flat_bitcoin removed from /r/Bitcoin within 0-10min
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okay. goes from 200k unconfirmed to 20k unconfirmed. you're right, it never clears down to zero. my point being, though, is many users that aren't aware of this fear that when they see 200k unconfirmed, that it'll go to 1m, 2m,etc, and never get confirmed.
Without Segwit Adoption , larger blocks, LN etc and with increasing adoption, it absolutely will go to 1m 2m etc, and low fee tx already never get confirmed. It hasn't been below 80k since around Dec 7th, it hasn't been under 20k in over a month. Looking at Nov 10th when difficulty decreased ~6% and tx count still went up sharply from around 34k to 170k in the following 3 days shows that small changes in difficulty pale in comparison to people actually doing tx for other reasons ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: flat_bitcoin
08-22 18:12 - '[quote] Only if it brings down hashing power. Considering how small Bitcoin is, there's plenty of room for growth even if blocksize is increased. Plenty more nodes will come online if adoption grows. Crippling adoption b...' by /u/ErisianBuddhist removed from /r/Bitcoin within 2-12min
And even if more users bring more fees, higher block size means fewer full nodes. That makes the network vulnerable.
Only if it brings down hashing power. Considering how small Bitcoin is, there's plenty of room for growth even if blocksize is increased. Plenty more nodes will come online if adoption grows. Crippling adoption because use cases are cut prematurely is myopic and short sighted. ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: ErisianBuddhist
06-12 19:32 - '[quote] Seeing trees and but not the forest. ETH has a much younger base and their network effects have more virality than Bitcoin's. Adoption is all that matters when comes to blockchains as they are social network constructs.' by /u/escapevelo removed from /r/Bitcoin within 3-13min
In my opinion it is 99% about a new form of gambling: ICOs.
03-03 04:46 - 'I'll answer because think you're actually believe this, since I'm familiar with these perpetuated misconceptions that have been debunked numerous times. / [quote] Bitcoin needs wide adoption in order to keep it ungovernable...' by /u/jaskanh removed from /r/Bitcoin within 215-220min
''' I'll answer because think you're actually believe this, since I'm familiar with these perpetuated misconceptions that have been debunked numerous times.
Block size needs to be small enough so we can run nodes on normal computers over tor, in order to kee bitcoin ungovernable.
Bitcoin needs wide adoption in order to keep it ungovernable, like the internet today. It can only be small if nobody uses it. Litecoin is more easily governable because it's small, and it's dying because it's small. Keeping Bitcoin small means it will die, like Usenet. It was very small it died from being small. Internet is big, servers are big, and there are hundreds of thousands of them, and no government can shut down internet.
bigger than 1M is not really needed at this point, but I could agree to 2M (segwit)
That's evidently false, the need for more transaction capacity is obvious, and the demand for them is still growing. In a few years we will need more than 4M. Segwit is a minor increase that poses high risks which not worth the effort.
backlog is actually a good thing for fee market.
That's an ignorant anti-economic absurdity. The fee market existed and was fully functional for years, long before blocks were close to full. There's no way artificial restrictions are good for any market. Restricting the market only leads to cartelization and limited competition. It's bad for user experience, it stops adoption and endangers Bitcoin's only utility, while Bitcoin is still small and fragile.
Hard fork should be avouded until it is actually necessary because it splits the chain and in worst case can destroy bitcoin.
A lot of early Bitcoiners knew this and spoke clearly about it, but somehow as waves of new people came in 2013 where 99% of their experience with money was 'payments' and a lot of scammers and sociopaths started pushing for a massive rates of new adoption beyond what was reasonably possible and a lot of people lost the plot. Short of violent conquest, becoming a world reserve currency fundamentally takes time. Fortunately, most of that attention went to sketchy altcoins that have now lost 90% of their value because their ideas were flawed and the people leading those flawed efforts uh.. had issues: The free market at work I guess.
Meanwhile, a simple check of the history for the scalability FAQ on the core controlled en.bitcoin.it quickly shows this to be the outright lie it is. https://archive.is/gfvBq Also note the continuous presentation of a false dichotomy between store of value and medium of exchange, as payment network vs digital gold whilst completely ignoring the fact that not only are they not a contradiction, they actually rely on each other. nullc your nonsense will not be allowed to fly without comment, and you will not be able to cover up the historical facts of the matter no matter how many times you repeat yourself in censored forums. The internet never forgets, and it's a simple fact of recorded history that you sabotaged the project. EDIT; The fool has seen fit to respond in the original forum and also PM'd me with insults and an insistence that this was a vicious attempt to attack him absent his ability to defend himself because he is now banned on this forum. The truth does not fear investigation and so, the response in question is; https://np.reddit.com/Bitcoin/comments/j7gw09/btc_vs_bch/g8tqgoj/ This response is not new at all, and is just as much a lie as the original comment, and I have directly refuted it before as well; https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/htss6k/banned_for_lying_on_rbitcoin_when_a_mod_was/fyntoze/ nullc, I repeat my original accusation; you're a lying saboteur and you have no integrity whatsoever. What you did was not an innocent mistake, you are a malevolent actor and the worst thing to have ever happened to bitcoin, period. As for your insinuation that your out of context false quotes were almost certainly from before I ever heard of bitcoin, exactly how much are you prepared to wager that I can't present a key from 2011 to prove that this too, like everything else you say is nothing but complete fucking nonsense?
06-08 03:06 - '[quote] SegWit is not 2.0 MB. Even with instantaneous 100% adoption, it would only be **[1.8 MB]**. Conversion over to SegWit-based wallets and addresses is not likely to exceed 50% for at least 1 year, so it will likely be less...' by /u/jtoomim removed from /r/Bitcoin within 2-7min
The division is not over blocksize. SegWit is essentially the same size as a 2MB HF.
08-07 19:22 - '[quote]  / I have seen no evidence so far of this assertion. All evidence so far seems to point to BIP91 being activated as a result of the NYA (BIP91 was adopted by SegWit2X as a courtesy to avoid disrupt...' by /u/two_bit_misfit removed from /r/Bitcoin within 0-4min
Miners activated BIP91 (by James Hilliard) on July 20th in response to UASF (BIP148)
 I have seen no evidence so far of this assertion. All evidence so far seems to point to BIP91 being activated as a result of the NYA (BIP91 was adopted by SegWit2X as a courtesy to avoid disruption, as long as it did not interfere with the stated goals of the NYA). The NYA, in turn, was brought forth as a solution to the scaling stalemate, and the NYA signatories did not list UASF as their motivation. Further, forks of Bitcoin (no matter how popular or unpopular) are not altcoins by any reasonable definition of "altcoin"...they are literally, tautologically, and by definition, forks. ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: two_bit_misfit
05-23 14:22 - '[quote] No in order to change the protocol developers of ethereum have to write the software changes then convince people to adopt the changed clients (same process as with bitcoin). If people disagree then they can simply fo...' by /u/JonnyLatte removed from /r/Bitcoin within 6-16min
Isn't ETH basically a corporation also?
No in order to change the protocol developers of ethereum have to write the software changes then convince people to adopt the changed clients (same process as with bitcoin). If people disagree then they can simply follow a fork which is why classic still exists even though its much lower valued. With rootstock the foundation owns 100% of the bitcoins / whatever share holder makeup they have doesn't get diluted whatever people do with RSK and if they want to make a protocol change they write the changed client then say you dont get your bitcoins back unless you follow the new protocol.
The ethereum foundation was paid bitcoin from investors (open to anyone with BTC, advertised here on /bitcoin quite a bit before it became hostile to competition) to build ethereum then in return ethereum crowd sales got a share in the initial distribution proportionally to what they paid with another amount just for developers to keep them vested. You could argue that the Ethereum developers wrote the DAO fork client because they would have lost funds but so would the economic majority of Ethereum holders, going with the changed version was chosen by the market. If it wasnt then Ethereum classic would have a higher value than Ethereum. Its also worth noting that the combined values of the two systems was larger than the individual values even after a period of selling off of classic which in my opinion means that the two communities where genuinely at odds and are doing better as separate users although likely with some overlap just as most ethereum users are also bitcoiners since bitcoin cant really offer complex smart contracts without including some way to charge for extra processing use and not just data size of transactions (hence the importance of the block size debate: just increasing the bitcoin block size would result in it being vulnerable to quadratic attacks) ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: JonnyLatte
Square is positioned to be a winner by helping small businesses digitize post-pandemic: Oppenheimer
Square shares are up 146% in 2020 so far, and analysts at Oppenheimer think the stock can still go higher. On Thursday, Oppenheimer upgraded Square (SQ) to outperform, with a price target of $185. (The all-time high was $166 on Sept. 1; shares were trading at around $152 on Thursday afternoon.) The upgrade is based on the growth of Square’s Cash App, and on the company’s opportunity to help merchants transition to e-commerce. But really, the note is a post-pandemic vote of confidence. As Oppenheimer writes, the COVID-19 pandemic has initiated a “massive shift in digital commerce, requiring merchants to rapidly adopt omni-channel solutions.” Of course, it was already obvious before the pandemic that the retail landscape was barreling toward e-commerce, but the pandemic has sent the trend into hyperdrive. Walmart, Target, and Best Buy reported enormous surges (100%+) in digital sales in Q2; online-only retailers Etsy and Wayfair blew out their Q2 earnings; Dick’s Sporting Goods is thriving thanks to a combination of online sales and curbside pickup. All of those are big retail names. Square’s bread and butter are SMBs (small and medium-sized businesses), which also need to immediately prioritize their e-commerce presence, if they didn’t already. Hundreds of thousands of small business have shut down due to the pandemic, but those that have survived will need to beef up their digital presence. Oppenheimer believes Square is well-suited to serve those small businesses coming out of the pandemic, positioning Square “for outsized share gains as economic activity normalizes.” Oppenheimer pegs Square’s TAM (total addressable market, the “it” tech stat of the moment) at $160 billion, and within that, puts Cash App’s TAM at $63 billion, noting that “by reinvesting profits from prior Cash App cohorts, combined with its seller ecosystem, Square can develop significant network effects and products that will be challenging for other neo-banks to replicate in the digital wallet space.” In other words, Square has an advantage over banks in the mobile payments race. Oppenheimer also notes the “impressive volume and gross profit growth” of Cash App’s bitcoin trading feature. Square enabled bitcoin trading within Cash App in 2018. It reaped $875 million in bitcoin revenue in the second quarter, up 600% year over year, and $17 million in bitcoin gross profit, up 711% year over year. ($17 million is small for a company with $4.17 billion in revenue in 2019, but the growth is the point.) Oppenheimer cites the growth in bitcoin revenue as proof of “the scalability in the Cash App business model.” Bitcoin has been a noted (and some believe problematic) obsession of CEO Jack Dorsey. Square has always touted that it serves both sides of the small business equation: sellers (i.e., businesses, through its point of sale hardware, payroll software, and Square Capital loan business) and shoppers (consumers paying with Square devices and/or using Cash App). Oppenheimer writes that this “two-sided network” will make Square “a structural winner during the recovery.” Of course, there’s an obvious downside case against Square: “Economic pressures persist longer than anticipated” if the pandemic drags on or even worsens, hitting small businesses harder; “competitive responses dampen growth,” and Square certainly has big competitors, including FIS (which acquired Worldpay last year), PayPal, ShopKeep, and Shopify; and if “new product launches and adoption slow,” which will be up to Dorsey and Square’s own pace of innovation. Oppenheimer sees Square profit growing at a 37% annual rate from the end of 2020 through the end of 2022. Square was Yahoo Finance’s Company of the Year in 2018. — Daniel Roberts is an editor-at-large at Yahoo Finance and closely covers fintech and payments. Follow him on Twitter at @readDanwrite. https://money.yahoo.com/square-is-positioned-to-be-a-winner-during-the-recovery-postpandemic-oppenheimer-191528365.html
Reasons why NANO fails and will keep failing until some things change
Dear NANO community, This is going to be a long post where I will discuss why NANO under performed and will keep under performing in this bull run unless some things change. I'm going to start up with straight facts with the famous quote of Floyd Mayweather: "Men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie". If you feel offended by some of this, facts don't care about your feelings. Technical Analysis In the time where BTC Dominance fell from peak of 74% to 56% and keeps falling, NANO has moved from its low of 0.0000640 sats to a price of 0.0000950 sats. That is about 50% gain if you bought on the absolute low, but looking at the monthly chart, we can see that NANO has basically been in the range of 0.0001400 sats to 0.0000750 sats ever since July of 2019 (for more than 2 years). https://charts.cointrader.pro/snapshot/zaXzV The all time high of NANO was 0.0028, so this price is currently 96% down in terms of BTC . https://charts.cointrader.pro/snapshot/tTF4J With this price NANO is falling out of top 100 cryptocurrency based on market cap. My thoughts: Considering that entire altcoin market is moving and that it keeps reaching new highs, this is very concerning for NANO and one can only ask themselves why does NANO keep falling behind? Why does on every Bitcoin pump price falls hardest and on every day when other altcoins go up 30%, NANO only goes up 10%. Reasons why NANO is lagging on the market:
Reason 1. - Lack of adoption where NANO can be utilized to its fullest
We all know that NANO has near instantaneous transactions and is fee-less which is why most of us fell in love with this cryptocurrency. Problem is that it has little to no adoption. What does it matter if NANO is feeless, when you don't have an exchange that will make a NANO/USD conversion for 0%. Who cares if STR, XRP and other fast coins have like 0.01$ fee if either way, exchange will take 1% or more fees from you.? If XRP has better exchange, they can easily be more cost efficient than NANO because of this problem. Devs need to be much more proactive rather than sit and wait while entire market is eating you alive. Proposed solution: Nano needs to invest more in marketing and in making a deal with exchange that will be liquid enough and provide little to no fees on NANO.
Reason 2. - There is no reward for NANO holders
I am a NANO holder ever since 2018 and it's been a long ride with constant buying at the end of each month with average buy of 2$ when I look at it totally. This is not that bad considering NANO's massive fall and what some other holders had to go through. Let's remind ourselves again, NANO has 0% inflation. And yet NANO's price doesn't grow. Where as other cryptocurrencies have 5-10% inflation and they are over-performing NANO massively. NANO holders get no rewards from holding NANO which is a big problem. People call this an advantage and I somewhat agree, but NANO holders need to be rewarded with something, because crypto space doesn't care about inflation. Proposed solution: Introduce POS (Proof of Stake) with inflation of 5% where NANO holders will be able to stake their NANO and receive 5% more NANO each year. You can do this or make it 6% and after each 2 years, there is halving of inflation. Imagine how coins get hyped when their rewards per year get cut in half. NANO has 0% inflation and it doesn't get any hype. It's already scarce, but people fail to see it.
Reason 3. - NANO is refusing to adapt with the current market
Current bull run has been ignited with DEFI and because people see that they can earn up to 3-5% daily income just for holding ERC20 token like BAT, BAL, LINK etc. There's even been introudect WBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) and WETH (Wrapped Ethereum), which means that people can hold their cryptocurrency which they would hold even if there weren't any rewards and they get 3-5% daily income + the chance of the DEFI coin actually pumping by 1000+% which many of them have done in the past month. Because of all of this people are massively buying ERC20 tokens just to get these gains daily. What has NANO do to interact with this entire DEFI space? Absolutely nothing. Did they try to introduce wNANO (wrapped NANO) like Ethereum and Bitcoin did? No. They just kept working on some other bullshit even-though protocol is in of itself 99% perfect and working. They keep focusing their energy on technology when technology is already better than anything else on the crypto market. NANO is currently the best fast cryptocurrency and it is not even close. Proposed solution: Devs need to start focusing energy on things that matter and which will help the price and not dump their stash and blindly look how everything else keeps growing.
Reason 4. - No one is making money of NANO market
This is similar to reason number 2 but it has to be said separately. Just ask yourself, who benefits of BTC markets? Miners. Who benefits of any other POS market? All of the holders. And then with this money you can finance devs which will work on the currency and will by this raise the price and the whole cycle repeats itself. So all of these things have in common that people are making money of doing something for the ecosystem. On one hand resources get paid, on the other people that are loyal to the project. NANO has one of the best and largest communities in cryptocurrency and numbers confirm this, yet there is no special way for any of us to benefit of of this. Everything is open source and people make everything for free. Proposed solution: Introduce mechanism so that community members can earn money of holding NANO. Conclusion: Nano is an amazing currency, but there are many things that need to fall in place in order for it to stop falling behind the market. It's sad that investing in what is called a "safest" altcoin Ethereum, would've made you much better gains than even buying NANO on the all time low would. This post is meant to be constructive criticism and to in the end open peoples mind on current problem NANO has in the space. Please share this post so more people and hopefully devs can see it and so that we all as a community can start working towards our goal of NANO becoming one of most utilized cryptocurrencies in the world.
Información en DASH : Estrategia elemental para cronificar SIN CURAR una jerarquía ponzi y sus parásitos.
u / dnale0ru / dashcryptou / DashUncensored It is not possible to add posts about censorship suffered in the thread anchored at the beginning of this reddit and it is important so that the open files do not sink to the bottom of the list. If you still come to this reddit, please open it.____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Information in DASH: Elemental strategy to chronify WITHOUT CURING a ponzi hierarchy and its parasites.( Development of the facts and presentation / monitoring of the corruption of the Valenzuela parasite and the repressive, intoxicating and corrupt strategy of the kidnapping elite of a deeply corrupt project ) With no prior breach of rules, I was banned by Valenzuela on the Dast Talk discord (probably the most unworthy parasite on DASH's infographic distortion channels - whose only contribution to the project and the reason for their alms is the information intoxication of the existing supporters to hide the endless defaults and incapacities of the project managers ... and the deception of new users / capital contributors to parasitize through the extractive structure by DASH-) for quoting a video of his (in the line of ignorance, cosmetic propaganda and habitual vacuity ) of an irrelevant interview with two inhabitants of the Ponzi (of absolutely empty perspectives too). Anyway ... an hour of topics, inaccuracies and brain death live ... nothing new. As the manipulation of the censoring cockroach Valenzuela is so evident - And as here I will not refer to the census rules of the official channels of the project nor do I need to save the forms to show a respect that I lack for the legion of parasites that, installed ponzi created, expand the metastasis of crap and repression that allows the entire cascade of incapable bummers to continue sucking) I copy and paste ALL the crossing of the message clarifier: Purpelado12 / 10/2020 https://odysee.com/@DigitalCashNetwork:c/Dash-Podcast-156:5?r=FqowB2QREmrBV4DcLpAWb8cz2K4gYVUV u/TheDesertLynx ... when you make economic references ... (and I mean both these and the rest of your past expositions on economic aspects of DASH) ... are you really convinced of what you say? The whole interview is a succession of (let's be nice and not say "manipulations") glaring inaccuracies. But as a sign of DASH's wacky economic approach, it works. TheDesertLynx12 / 10/2020 u/Purpelado do not mention or address me again, this will be considered harassment. Thank you \* Purpelado12 / 10/2020 And that in what libertarian code is it written? There is nothing to consider personally beyond some analyzable approaches like any other. (for my part, of course). *\* bigrcanada12 / 10/2020 Thank god i can't understand his English. **\* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 days later, the kindergarten guru (or a neighborhood tavern full of hicks more ignorant than he himself still) uploads another of his "existential illuminations" (in his line of obviousness and emptiness "signature mark") TheDesertLynx 17/10/2020 There's a few @ p5yc071c it depends which one because there's two I made this to explore some of the bigger adoption issues we face: https://odysee.com/@DigitalCashNetwork:c/Adoption:3?r=FqowB2QREmrBV4DcLpAWb8cz2K4gYVUV Odysee The REAL Reasons Cryptocurrency Adoption Hasn't Happened ! [image] (https://thumbs.spee.ch/view/2/72565375fff13b62.png) Cryptocurrency has been around for over 10 years since Bitcoin's birth in 2009. But it still hasn't reached anything resembling mainstream ... >>> Of course, disregarding his sly previous threats, I quote its ridiculous sermon, in direct contradiction to his previous (pseudo) historical theses, downplaying and ridiculing the need for stable resources in DASH. Purpelado17 / 10/2020 u/TheDesertLynx ... volatility is an adoption problem? Now? (the first one you name) after a 96% wealth drain during which you have spread the message on DASH networks that stable coins "are a fad"? (A fashion that bills, only in one currency, as much daily money as BTC, ETH and Ripple together - and more than the rest of the united sector, thousands of projects -). How do you think that BTC has maintained reasonable volatility compared to all other projects, if not for Tether? (which is worth nothing less than the throne of the industry light years from the rest). Without Tether, Bitcoin would have fallen to 3 figures, like the rest ... and would be suffering a martyrdom to regain its lost status - like the rest of the relevant currencies ... and DASH especially -). In order for the demand for DASH AS A MEANS OF PAYMENT, which is what you defend even by directly encouraging spending, to eliminate the volatility suffered by the currency, you do not need to go up in adoption, but to achieve a MONSTER adoption ( that is, subordinate a current problem, short-term, to a future and long-term solution ... and it is not necessary to clarify the asynchrony of that approach and its effects: Just look at the DASH price statement). But DASH needs effective stable resources TODAY to mitigate its volatility and reaffirm itself as a store of value (and on top of that, create a progressive growth structure). As u/xcdc says, that is what users are looking for to entrust their money to a project: A SOLID asset. Until that is resolved, this will be a destructive spiral of wealth ... even if the best technology for payments is available. TheDesertLynx17/10/2020 u/Purpelado do not mention me or address me again, this will be considered harassment. Thank you / (copypaste of its threat from days ago - "supposedly" loaded with reason for those who had not read it and seen the pure invention of "harassment") u/TheDesertLynx Some people just don't learn: Facepalm: Purpelado17 / 10/2020 By the way ... being a good means of payment and a good store of value ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE (an argument that continually underlies the monetary qualities of DASH). BTC has sacrificed - to this day - qualities such as speed in exchange for being the "Gold" of the sector (an approach that is being very beneficial) ... but for sheer technical limitations. However, DASH is technically prepared to address both challenges: the solution is strategic and therefore perfectly within reach. bigrcanada at 5:54 Yeah ... FUCK! Like why is Purple Dick still on here too?!? Fuck fuck !!!!!!! ***\* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1- notes and clarifications \* He accuses me of harassment when there are not even previous posts between him and me (in fact, it would be difficult to find a quote from me, looking back MONTHS ... probably and except by chance, there is not ... that is: NOTHING of harassment - I know that his censorious, ignorant and manipulative attitude fits easily into my IMPERSONAL AND GENERIC criticisms of the objectionable practices in DASH ... and I also know that "thedesertlynx / Valenzuela" is corrupt, cowardly and complex, with which, except Express mention of me, I will not give you excuses to express your cowardice and one-sided authoritarianism -) *\* I expose your invention on a non-existent harassment. **\* Thanks to a post that tries to ridicule me ... to which he adds a request for an automatic translation of the discord (it does not seek to expose a problem or harassment ... but to excuse the censorship he wants to execute on my posts, ridicule me and call for my harassment the group of trolls that systematically intoxicate the DASH Talk Discord) ***\* The group of trolls keeps harassing me (in text and thank you icons) 2- Links 1- Invention of infraction ... and threat of ban. https://discord.com/channels/484546513507188745/484546513935269918/765205520347824128 2- Execution of ban https://discord.com/channels/484546513507188745/484546513935269918/767040388505927730
Lition - $8 Million Dollar Market Cap With Real Use Right Now and a New Product They Are Developing Which Has Huge Potential.
I’m not usually one to shill my own coins but I’ve stolen a few good picks from this sub so I thought I’d share a new one I recently stumbled upon. Before I go into more details, I’d like to preface this by saying that I never invest in anything which I don’t think has the fundamentals to last at least 5-10 years and I don’t think this is a project which you will see a few hundred percent gains in a month or two. The hype isn’t there with this project and it’s more of a mid-long term play. If you want overnight gains, gamble on some of the smaller caps posted in this sub which are more like ponzi schemes riding on DeFi hype which you sell to a greater fool.
Lition is a layer 2 blockchain infrastructure on top of Ethereum that enables commercial usage of dApps. The Lition protocol complements the Ethereum mainchain by adding features such as privacy, scalability and deletability for GDPR compliance. Everybody can choose to build on Lition without the need for permission.
In addition to the above, they also have a P2P energy trading platform currently operating and is supplying green power to customers in over 1000 towns and cities across Germany. Through their power platform, Lition customers are able to save about 20% on their monthly energy bill, while producers generate up to 30% higher profits since they are cutting out the middle men. However, the real moonshot here is not their already successful smart energy platform (which utilises the same token) it is the enterprise layer 2 solution described in the quote above. Their layer 2 enterprise infrastructure which is still in development will offer infinite scalability through sidechains and nodes staking LIT tokens on these sidechains. Block times will be fast at around 3 seconds and fees will be tiny fractions of a cent. However, the real selling point for enterprises will be that the data on these sidechains can be deleted and can be public or private, with private chains being validated via Zero-Knowledge proofs to verify that the private data is correct. This is huge and makes Lition a solution for a wide range of enterprise use cases due to these optional features. But it doesn’t stop there. Lition is also GDPR compliant - a big deal for Europe based enterprises and for the record, very very few blockchain solutions are GDPR compliant (I believe VeChain is one of the few other projects which are).
Important Bullet Points
They have a very close partnership with SAP who if you don’t know are the world’s leading business software company. SAP’s Chief Innovation Officer is even an advisor for the project. As stated in the whitepaper: ”SAP can easily implement this blockchain into their existing products and services for their customer base of >400,000, making them immediately ready for blockchain use cases. It is therefore well positioned to become the standard mainnet for business applications.”
They have a partnership with Microsoft and they are integrated with Microsoft Azure Cloud.
In terms of their energy platform, Lition has a growth target of 235,000 customers by the end of 2022. 3 months ago they stated that they were ahead of their goal. Right now there is a ”solid 4-figured number of new customers every month with each new customer bringing in ~€1,000 Euros in annual recurring revenue”.
Oh, and did I mention they support staking? Staking returns are currently over 15% for node operators.
Their token has two primary uses. First, it is a utility token and they plan on making the LIT token the preferred payment method for all of the services on the Lition protocol. Secondly, it is used as collateral for staking which I can see locking up a large proportion of the supply in the future. Unfortunately the circulating supply is currently 50% of the max supply but that said, coins like LINK have just 35% of the total tokens currently circulating, so relative to other projects, this isn’t too bad and many of the tokens are still to be earned by staking.
With their existing energy platform seeing real adoption and steady growth in Germany, in my opinion, this alone would be enough to justify their current market cap. However, I can see their second layer solution for enterprise being a really big deal in the future as protocol coins tend to accrue more value than utility tokens. As a versatile L2 solution for Ethereum, LIT gets the best of both worlds - adoption and network effects from Ethereum by helping it to scale as well as accruing value from the wide range of enterprise use cases which can be built on top of Lition. At just $8 million dollars in market cap, it seems to me that their work-in-progress L2 enterprise solution has not been priced in. However, due to a lack of hype and marketing right now, I don’t see LIT exploding in the short term. Rather, I can see it slowly outperforming ETH and climbing up the CMC rankings throughout this bullrun, much like Chainlink did in the bear market. Their building and partnerships over marketing strategy also reminds me when I held Chainlink back in 2018 when Sergey was busy building out the project rather than blowing their ICO money on marketing a bunch of vaporware like so many other projects. Personally, I can see LIT becoming a top 100 project (not top 10) as it isn’t the first of an important new type of project like Chainlink was/is but it is an L2 protocol with unique advantages and selling points over other existing L2 projects which scatter the top 20-200 range. This would put the market cap at just under $120 million dollars which is a 15x from here. This is of course a valuation which assumes that the total crypto market cap remains where it is right now at just under $400 billion dollars. However, if BTC makes it to 100K and Ethereum gets to $5K then that is another 10x from here which compounds on any LIT/BTC or LIT/ETH ratio gains. In this scenario, a top 100 project would be worth around $1BILLION DOLLARS by market cap which is over 100x from here and probably even more if ETH hits 10K and Bitcoin dominance falls back down to the 30% range or below towards the end of the bullrun. Disclaimer, the above figures are a theoretical best case scenario and are far from financial advice. They are my moonshot estimates which assumes all goes well for the project and the wider crypto space. Website: https://www.lition.io/ CoinGecko: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/lition Medium: https://medium.com/lition-blog
TL;DR: LIT has current real world use which is consistently growing with their P2P energy trading platform and has huge potential with their new L2 protocol for enterprise due to its unique features. They have a close partnership with SAP and are also partnered with Microsoft. Currently around #400 on CMC, my target is for LIT to be top 100 by the end of the bullrun. Edit: Sorry 4chan, I didn't mean to shill one of your FUDed coins. Lit is a shitcoin scam, ignore this post.
Payments giant Paypal says its customers can now buy and sell Bitcoin.
by Mickael Mosse Payments giant Paypal says its customers can now buy, sell and hold bitcoin and other virtual coins with the company’s online wallets. The company also says its customers will able to use cryptocurrencies to shop at the 26 million merchants on its network starting in early 2021. Paypal allowing customers to sell and buy #Bitcoin, by Mickael Mosse blog, cryptocurrency advisor. A report quotes the company’s President and Chief Executive Dan Schulman saying they hope “the service will encourage global use of virtual coins and prepare its network for new digital currencies that may be developed by central banks and corporations.” “We are working with central banks and thinking of all forms of digital currencies and how Paypal can play a role,” said Schulman. According to a report, U.S. account holders can start buying and selling cryptocurrencies in “the coming weeks” while there are plans to expand “this to Venmo and some countries in the first half of 2021.” The report adds that Paypal, which has secured the first conditional cryptocurrency license from the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), “will initially allow purchases of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies called ethereum, bitcoin cash, and litecoin.” Paypal has partnered with Paxos Trust Company to offer the service. Meanwhile, the report further explains: "Cryptocurrency payments on paypal will be settled using fiat currencies, such as the u.s. dollar, meaning merchants will not receive payments in virtual coins." The news of Paypal’s entry into the cryptocurrency space is a huge endorsement for crypto assets and it comes as more mainstream organizations are buying bitcoin and other digital assets. The payments giants’ entry is likely to spark the wider adoption of cryptocurrencies given its wide reach. According to the report, Paypal “has 346 million active accounts around the world and processed $222 billion in payments in the second quarter.” #Paypal#Payments#Cryptonews#Virtualcoins#CryptoWallet#exchange#cryptoexchange#ethereum#atari#videogames#virtualreality#tokens#ataritoken#MickaelMosse#blockchain#crypto#bitcoin#cryptocurrencies#cryptonews#MickaelMosse#altcoins#USA#Markets#money#CryptoAdoption#BitcoinAdoption#MarketNews
"Read.cash Founder Threatens Ban & Permanent Fund Blacklist of 100 Users by Midnight London Time Tonight" Response from the read.cash founder
(Sorry that I post it here, the letters will be small, it would have been much better on read.cash, but it contains personal attacks on C. Edward Kelso and Shammah Chancellor, so I would have to ban me on read.cash for this post) This is probably the most personal story I've ever published on the Internet on how your project will come back to haunt you and destroy your mind and your life. CoinSpice should find enough "juicy" details here to humiliate me even further, I think they still could! I believe in their potential! Should I send you my nudes to post, CoinSpice, for you new article? (No, I'm not a girl, in case you're wondering) Enjoy it if you like long reads. Warning: it contains quite a few jabs at some people. So, you might have read this "piece" from afriendofsatoshi C. Edward Kelso Chief editor of CoinSpice https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i067py/readcash_founder_threatens_ban_permanent_fund/fznpi0x/ I'm really disappointed in CoinSpice. Anecdote from the past about them: my interview with them was terribly handled. I started the interview with them with "English is not my native language, so feel free to fix any errors you see in my answer", what did they write in CoinSpice? "We were able to determine that he is not a native English speaker" Seriously, "were able to determine", Sherlock?... why did you even need to publish that? To add a bit of a sensation? But this new piece from CoinSpice just breaks through the floor... I'm speechless... If you are ever offered to being interviewed by CoinSpice - run away! Save yourself!
28 July, 2020 An uneventful day on read.cash, people posting pictures of flowers, telling stories how they met their spouses, doing contests about who will sponsor whom, posting articles about teamwork and interviews with prominent Bitcoin Cash figures. Seriously, read.cash guys interviewed tons of Bitcoin Cash supporters (After the interview with CoinSpice I never gave anoter interview to anyone fearing it will be exactly unprofessional as CoinSpice - trying to get every little dirt the could dig out there) micropresident (the guy who does not yet know he's going to, very professionally, like a normal stable developer he is, later go on to tell me "fuck read.cash") publishes a contest where he calls for memes that contain the following phrases: "Amaury the Socialist Dictator", "Marc De Mesel is Calvin Ayre Lite") promising up to 2 BCH in return (I believe, I didn't read his rules) for these memes. Since a lot of read.cash users are from Philippines, Nigeria and other poor countries, where $300 is a lot of money (maybe something you will make in a year), people proceed to create these memes. This goes directly against the rules of the site that everyone must agree before they sign up, directly violating the rule: "No name-calling, trash-talking, personal attacks or insults." I log in to read.cash and notice the homepage full of low quality posts attacking Amaury, Marc, ABC, upvoted to no end, tons of boosted posts and Shammah giving $$ left and right for this stuff. I publish 2 responses where I tell people to remove the memes that contain personal attacks or face a ban. https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/the-state-of-things-33c3d68a and https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/post-a4935cbd Most of the people agreed and removed the offending memes and had no problem with it, many said they were sorry. u/micropresident in a very professional manner proceeds to tell us to "fuck [ourselves]" and tells he's building a clone (non-moderated I presume). He also quotes us very calmly and professionally adding: "Complete bullshit" referring to rules of read.cash CoinSpice proceeds to publish the "celebrity upskirt" kind of article "Read.cash Founder Threatens Ban & Permanent Fund Blacklist of 100 Users by Midnight London Time Tonight". Emphasis mine, I just can't stand this kind of language... this is yellow press at best. It only lacks "Reason #2 will shock you!" in the title... So, back to the story.
Why do we even have this rule?
Is it because I'm an egomaniac that hates people? Is it because I'm secretly funded by BSV? Is it because Marc de Mesel donated nearly $100,000 to the fund? Is it because I love censoring people? No, no and no. It's because I want Bitcoin Cash adoption. I frankly wanted Bitcoin adoption since 2013, alas, the tiny blocks and huge fees won't allow that. So I had to switch to Bitcoin Cash which kept Bitcoin idea going. Do you have a friend that is not deep into cryptocurrency? Tell him/her to join the Crypto Twitter. They will look at it for five minutes and tell you: "Are you crazy? These people are constantly attacking and mocking each other. What if I do something wrong? Why are they doing it? Are they mentally ill? Is this really the money of the future?" This will be his answer for nearly every site or platform that talks about cryptocurrency. It's everywhere. But with Bitcoin Cash somehow it's very ingrained into the nature. I understand, Bitcoin Cash was attacked so often that it became a second nature of some people to attack everything they don't like. Don't like Amaury? Let's attack him! Why? Don't care! I just don't like him! Don't like Marc de Mesel? Let's attack him! Don't like CSW and Calvin? - Let's attack them. - But why? They don't do anything bad to us now. - Wait, are you one of THEM? Let's attack or you'll be attacked! Fuck you, you and you and read.cash, fuck yeah! Attaccckkk!!! This all seems totally crazy to a newcomer. But what do we want to achieve with read.cash? Getting newcomers to use Bitcoin Cash. Without the drama or craziness. Just some flower pictures. Up until 28 July, 2020 this was the case. People were posting innocent pictures, got payments from the fund, tipped each other, sponsored each other, yelled at me for not getting paid enough. Occasionally, we had some dissenters, like *****, who proceeded to tell spammers that they are "fucking cunts", got a warning for that, left forever, deleting all articles, returned, started attacking people again, got banned for that, started telling people on memo.cash how stupid read.cash is because we didn't manually ban the spammers and wasted time programming software to detect them... Ok, weird thing - she seems to recommend people to join read.cash now, which is confusing, so I removed her name. Then there were people who wasted hours upon hours of my day by asking stupid questions, who got blocked (from me, not from read.cash)... But mostly things were okay with read.cash (not with me though). We've got 12,000 users, very few incidents, the fund got a donation from Marc de Mesel for nearly $100,000 which will pay new users for a year or so. We gave away money to 5,700 people (for free)! I want to stress one part here. Marc has donated (unconditionally) more than 97% of the fund. More than 30 times more than all of the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem combined donated. Read that part again. Marc donated 30 times more than everyone else in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem combined! Unconditionally. I haven't received any condition about the donation use. Marc even told us that he's willing to donate much more! Which we hastily declined, because read.cash is not profitable and it doesn't make sense to spend more than we would have gotten from ads if we were monetized. read.cash can't be living off donations forever. It's unsustanable. So we spend via the fund approximately what we would have gotten if read.cash was plastered with ads. But again, 12,000 users of read.cash is 97% MarcDeMesel's achievement. That's 12,000 users of Bitcoin Cash. Isn't "adoption" what you wanted? Yet, the guy who said "fuck read.cash!", all the while getting top payments from the read.cash fund, proceeds to create a contest about "Marc is Calvin Ayre Lite"... Told that this is a personal attack, replies "Complete bullshit!" (exact quote) Note: Marc is actually OK with memes about him and asked us directly to revert our policy to allow the [offensive] memes It wasn't Marc's initiative, it was mine. And it wasn't only Marc who were being mocked. I'll admit right here - I don't like Amaury's actions, I don't like IFP (and I listed my reasons), but I'll warn/ban anyone directly attacking him on read.csah (not his thoughts, but just him). Wanna discuss how Amaury's idea about DAA is bad? Feel free! Wanna call him an idiot? Welcome to ban'sville, population - you. Well, usually a warning, then a ban if you insist on doing that. The same will go for CSW, Calvin or anyone anywhere.
Are you crazy? Did you just say you'll protect CSW and Calvin? We've got a BSV shill here! Attackkk!!!!
No, no and no. We have no funds from BSV (as far as I know, the fund is non-custodial and permissionless - anyone can donate and cancel at any time), I've never contacted Calvin or CSW and I've been attacked by BSV people on multiple occasions and was accused of being a BSV shill on multiple occasions (besides people telling me to "fuck [my project]"). One thing I figured early on is that if you allow people to do something, you need to apply that rule to everyone. Otherwise, you are a hippocrite and you should hang your head in shame. If you allow people to mock and denigrate Amaury, Marc, BSV, BTC supporters, that's the fine line that you'll have to keep later on, when BTC and BSV supporters come. How come you're allowing people to mock a BTC supporter, yet you protect a BCH supporter? That's dishonest. So we will have to allow BTC and BSV supporters to mock us and denigrate us. Because that's the rule. You allowed it! They will be right. So if we allow people to attack other people (even if I don't like them), everybody would be entitled to attack everybody. That's where you start your journey to becoming a Crypto Twitter, where you will be attacked for nothing, where a snowball will roll on you (it did on me, but thats another story), where people would start to stalk you and try to ruin your life, because you like the coin they don't like. That's a place which normal people won't ever join. Read it again: No adoption for you, no world money! So, you either have "no censorship" (which is really moderation) or you have normal people. Choose one, choose wisely, you won't be able to change it later. We chose "normal people". The plan was working fine (almost) until the eventful post. But I will not revert this policy. I hope I explained why.
Koush: But you allow worse crimes to happen on read.cash!
Ok, here's a yellow press sensation worthy of coinspice.io! Listen carefully! #1 will shock you! I am... one guy. Yes, read.cash is a one-man shitshow. I'm the backend developer, I'm the frontend developer, I'm the system administrator, I'm the moderator, I'm the policy maker, I'm the one who replies to 100+ emails daily on [email protected], I'm the one getting up to 200 notifications per day on read.cash, I'm the one who writes articles, I'm the one who wakes up at night when a server fails, I'm the one who logged 1000 hours developing read.cash according to my IDE's time tracking plugin, I'm the one responsible for the bug that took your money, I'm the one who returned you your money, I'm the one fighting spam, I'm the one writing code to catch spammers, I'm read.cash. I'm the one responsible to keep 7,500 comments per day (that's one comment every 10 seconds, 24/7), 800 articles per day, 400 short posts per day clean. See the stats yourself, the damn thing is growing and growing... It is an impossible task. But I do read every one of 100+ reports sent to me per day. And each one of them is a moral dilemma for me - what to do here. This guy has copied an article from the Internet, but edited it so that it looks like another article, what do I do here? Ok, this guy is posting non-sense - is that against rules? It's surely annoying, but doesn't violate the rules. What to do here? Now try this 100 times a day. This guy, Koush, I know, he's a good guy, but now he's attacking the only guy who really helped read.cash when no one else did? WTF do I do here? That's why I'm always telling people to report anything that they see that violates rules. I can't be everywhere. I can't make the right decision every time too. I'm a regular fucking person. Two legs, two hands, one medium-sized brain. Ok, to be honest, a few months ago I asked a developer friend to join me to help (paid with my own money, not using read.cash fund for that), so he helps some 10 hours per month. That helps, surely, not enough. Though I'll still call read.cash we, as it is still a registered company. BTW To be clear - I never got any money from the read.cash fund, but I spent more than $5,000 giving away. Here's a screenshot from an internal tool that I call "the random rewarder": https://i.imgur.com/ucQEvVM.png As you can see, I'm entitled to about $1.31 - $1.39 for today, but I get $0.00. That was always the case, because I strongly believe that I must give it to people of read.cash to attract new users. I also gave away 100% of the funds that came to me as tips on read.cash. BTW Did you notice that on the screenshot the guy who said "Marc de Mesel is Calvin Ayre Lite" and "fuck read.cash" got the top payment from the fund, which is at the moment 97% funded by Marc de Mesel? My friend, the developer, who joined me, told me a few days ago: "I read your history on read.cash, you sound progressively ..." "..depressive and passively aggressive," I ended his sentence, "I know." Yes, I know. I'm pretty passive agressive already, because every day I met with demands from users. "Why am I not getting paid?" "I work for read.cash for 8 hours a day, why is my pay so low?" "I sent some money and now I have $0.01 less than I should?" "How do I get sponsors?" "I think this guy is cheating!" "Hey, our family of 20 people joined read.cash and it says that I have 19 colocated accounts on the same IP! That's not true!" I loathe my morning, when I open my email and there's 50 new alerts from Sentry, there are 100+ emails from users demanding stuff from me, accusing me of being unfair, wrong, an idiot, telling me "fuck read.cash"! etc.. etc.. etc.. daily grind.. I never experienced anything like that. I was always a lead developer or manager managing small teams of 5-10 people. Nothing close to this shit I experience now. You get progressively less sensitive. You start to think that it's ok to just delete an email, since you can't reply to everyone. You can't research why someone of 12,000 people didn't get paid, since the algorithms are now so complex that you yourself will have to spend a week just researching one guy why he gets $0.10 instead of maybe $0.50... you have no idea who your users are. The project is out of your control. But you can't do anything, because it's not profitable enough to even cover the server costs, let alone hire additional programmer or a support guy. Then one day you log and see the beautiful garden full of dog shit. Crappy memes. A guy telling you "fuck you, there's $25K for the clone of this!" Thank God Shammah didn't offer that $25K for my head... You find this about the only guy who really helped read.cash with money and demanded nothing in return (not a single condition was made) being compared to a midget version of a guy who was in a FBI Top Wanted list! Again, Marc says he's ok with this, I'm not! Whoever did this meme is an asshole, I don't have any other words for this human. (Yes, I would have been banned on read.cash for this alone. You can ban me here, I no longer care...) You find yourself increasingly grumpy, angry towards those around you, your family, because everybody is angry at you in the Internet, people are demanding and people is attacking the only people you can trust (Roger, Marc)... You think about your previous nice cozy job. You think about 5 recruiters sending you daily mails to just name the price to join their company. You realize that these 9 months you could have made maybe $100,000, maybe $200,000 sitting on your ass, managing 5-10 people like you always did.. Instead you spent 9 months, $5,000 in Bitcoin Cash, got grumpy and depressed. You start to ponder why you do this and whether you should even continue. That's your future, Mr. Shammah Chancellor! That's the reality of running a social media platform with cryptocurrency. I will be happy to see your platform, Mr. "fuck read.cash", grow and flourish, but I warn you - it's not going to cost you $25K, but much much more. It's going to eat you alive if you are mildly successful with it and you have a little bit of conscience. You will be attacked, you will be spammed. People will tell you "fuck you!" I honestly have no idea why you think you will fare better than yours.org or honest.cash... What's your advantage? being censorship free, so that people can shit and pee on each other? Then one day 9 months later, 12,000 users, $50,000 in tips later, a guy will come in and tell you "Fuck you, Shammah and your project! Fuck you! I'm building a clone for $5K of this shit of a platform!" You will look at the clock where it's 8pm, you will look at your inbox, where there's still 50 more people yelling at you.. you'll ponder why do you even do this... That day you'll understand me, Mr. Chancellor. Or maybe not, I have no idea what kind of a human being you are. Maybe you're reading this and laughing madly: "poor pussy can't take a beating! boo-hoo! Get off the internet, you wuss!" Maybe that's your thoughts, I don't know. You certainly don't seem to care about other people's feelings dismissing them as "complete bullshit". Well kept gardens die by pacifism is a wonderful read about this.
Somewhere in the vastness of the Internet, it is happening even now. It was once a well-kept garden of intelligent discussion, where knowledgeable and interested folk came, attracted by the high quality of speech they saw ongoing. But into this garden comes a fool, and the level of discussion drops a little—or more than a little, if the fool is very prolific in their posting. (It is worse if the fool is just articulate enough that the former inhabitants of the garden feel obliged to respond, and correct misapprehensions—for then the fool dominates conversations.)
Peace, and out. P.S. I remind people that there's an ongoing fundraiser going for mainnet.cash, so anyone agreeing with "fuck read.cash" policy of Mr. Chancellor should cancel their donations while there's still time. It's very easy to cancel. Don't give your money to idealistic fools like me. P.P.S. I blocked u/afriendofsatoshi, so somebody please forward it to him so he can humiliate me further, only on coinspice.io! Subscribe now!
Hello visitors and subscribers of scams! Here you will find a master list of common (and uncommon) scams that you may encounter online or in real life. Thank you to the many contributors who helped create this thread!
If you know of a scam that is not covered here, write a comment and it will be added to the next edition.
Caller ID spoofing It is very easy for anyone to make a phone call while having any number show up on the caller ID of the person receiving the phone call. Receiving a phone call from a certain number does not mean that the person/company who owns that number has actually called you. Email spoofing The "from" field of an email can be set by the sender, meaning that you can receive scam emails that look like they are from legitimate addresses. It's important to never click links in emails unless absolutely necessary, for example a password reset link you requested or an account activation link for an account you created. SMS spoofing SMS messages can be spoofed, so be wary of messages that seem to be from your friends or other trusted people.
The most common scams
The fake check scam (Credit to nimble2 for this part) The fake check scam arises from many different situations (for instance, you applied for a job, or you are selling something on a place like Craigslist, or someone wants to purchase goods or services from your business, or you were offered a job as a mystery shopper, you were asked to wrap your car with an advertisement, or you received a check in the mail for no reason), but the bottom line is always something like this:
The scammer sends you a very real looking, but fake, check. Sometimes they'll call it a "cashier's check", a "certified check", or a "verified check".
You deposit the check into your bank account, and within a couple of days your bank makes some or all of the funds available to you. This makes you think that the check is real and the funds have cleared. However, the money appearing in your account is not the same as the check actually clearing. The bank must make the funds available to you before they have cleared the check because that is the law.
For various and often complicated reasons, depending on the specific story line of the scam, the scammer will ask you to send someone some of the money, using services like MoneyGram, Western Union, and Walmart-2-Walmart. Sometimes the scammer will ask for you to purchase gift cards (iTunes, Amazon, Steam, etc) and give them the codes to redeem the gift cards. Some scammers may also give you instructions on how to buy and send them bitcoins.
Within a couple of weeks, though it can take as long as a month, your bank will realize that the check you deposited was fake, and your bank will remove the funds that you deposited into your account and charge you a bounced check fee. If you withdrew any of the money from the fake check, that money will be gone and you will owe that money to the bank. Some posters have even had their bank accounts closed and have been blocked from having another account for 5 years using ChexSystems.
General fraudulent funds scams If somebody is asking you to accept and send out money as a favour or as part of a job, it is a fraudulent funds scam. It does not matter how they pay you, any payment on any service can be fraudulent and will be reversed when it is discovered to be fraudulent. Phone verification code scams Someone will ask you to receive a verification text and then tell you to give them the code. Usually the code will come from Google Voice, or from Craigslist. In the Google version of the scam, your phone number will be used to verify a Google Voice account that the scammer will use to scam people with. In the Craigslist version of the scam, your phone number will be used to verify a Craigslist posting that the scammer will use to scam people. There is also an account takeover version of this scam that will involve the scammer sending a password reset token to your phone number and asking you for it. Bitcoin job scams Bitcoin job scams involve some sort of fraudulent funds transfer, usually a fake check although a fraudulent bank transfer can be used as well. The scammer will send you the fraudulent money and ask you to purchase bitcoins. This is a scam, and you will have zero recourse after you send the scammer bitcoins. Email flooding If you suddenly receive hundreds or thousands of spam emails, usually subscription confirmations, it's very likely that one of your online accounts has been taken over and is being used fraudulently. You should check any of your accounts that has a credit card linked to it, preferably from a computer other than the one you normally use. You should change all of your passwords to unique passwords and you should start using two factor authentication everywhere. Cartel scam You will be threatened by scammers who claim to be affiliated with a cartel. They may send you gory pictures and threaten your life and the lives of your family. Usually the victim will have attempted to contact an escort prior to the scam, but sometimes the scammers target people randomly. If you are targeted by a cartel scam all you need to do is ignore the scammers as their threats are clearly empty. Boss/CEO scam A scammer will impersonate your boss or someone who works at your company and will ask you to run an errand for them, which will usually be purchasing gift cards and sending them the code. Once the scammer has the code, you have no recourse. Employment certification scams You will receive a job offer that is dependent on you completing a course or receiving a certification from a company the scammer tells you about. The scammer operates both websites and the job does not exist. Craigslist fake payment scams Scammers will ask you about your item that you have listed for sale on a site like Craigslist, and will ask to pay you via Paypal. They are scamming you, and the payment in most cases does not actually exist, the email you received was sent by the scammers. In cases where you have received a payment, the scammer can dispute the payment or the payment may be entirely fraudulent. The scammer will then either try to get you to send money to them using the fake funds that they did not send to you, or will ask you to ship the item, usually to a re-shipping facility or a parcel mule. Craigslist Carfax/vehicle history scam You'll encounter a scammer on Craigslist who wants to buy the vehicle you have listed, but they will ask for a VIN report from a random site that they have created and they will expect you to pay for it. Double dip/recovery scammers This is a scam aimed at people who have already fallen for a scam previously. Scammers will reach out to the victim and claim to be able to help the victim recover funds they lost in the scam. General fraudulent funds scams The fake check scam is not the only scam that involves accepting fraudulent/fake funds and purchasing items for scammers. If your job or opportunity involves accepting money and then using that money, it is almost certainly a frauduent funds scam. Even if the payment is through a bank transfer, Paypal, Venmo, Zelle, Interac e-Transfer, etc, it does not matter. Credit card debt scam Fraudsters will offer to pay off your bills, and will do so with fraudulent funds. Sometimes it will be your credit card bill, but it can be any bill that can be paid online. Once they pay it off, they will ask you to send them money or purchase items for them. The fraudulent transaction will be reversed in the future and you will never be able to keep the money. This scam happens on sites like Craigslist, Twitter, Instagram, and also some dating sites, including SeekingArrangement. The parcel mule scam A scammer will contact you with a job opportunity that involves accepting and reshipping packages. The packages are either stolen or fraudulently obtained items, and you will not be paid by the scammer. Here is a news article about a scam victim who fell for this scam and reshipped over 20 packages containing fraudulently acquired goods. The Skype sex scam You're on Facebook and you get a friend request from a cute girl you've never met. She wants to start sexting and trading nudes. She'll ask you to send pictures or videos or get on webcam where she can see you naked with your face in the picture. The scam: There's no girl. You've sent nudes to a guy pretending to be a girl. As soon as he has the pictures he'll demand money and threaten to send the pictures to your friends and family. Sometimes the scammer will upload the video to a porn site or Youtube to show that they are serious. What to do if you are a victim of this scam: You cannot buy silence, you can only rent it. Paying the blackmailer will show them that the information they have is valuable and they will come after you for more money. Let your friends and family know that you were scammed and tell them to ignore friend requests or messages from people they don't know. Also, make sure your privacy settings are locked down and consider deactivating your account. The underage girl scam You're on a dating site or app and you get contacted by a cute girl. She wants to start sexting and trading nudes. Eventually she stops communicating and you get a call from a pissed off guy claiming to be the girl's father, or a police officer, or a private investigator, or something else along those lines. Turns out the girl you were sexting is underage, and her parents want some money for various reasons, such as to pay for a new phone, to pay for therapy, etc. There is, of course, no girl. You were communicating with a scammer. What to do if you are a victim of this scam: Stop picking up the phone when the scammers call. Do not pay them, or they will be after you for more money. Phishing Phishing is when a scammer tries to trick you into giving information to them, such as your password or private financial information. Phishing messages will usually look very similar to official messages, and sometimes they are identical. If you are ever required to login to a different account in order to use a service, you should be incredibly cautious. The blackmail email scam part 5: https://old.reddit.com/Scams/comments/g8jqnthe_blackmail_email_scam_part_5/ PSA: you did not win a giftcard: https://old.reddit.com/Scams/comments/fffmle/psa_you_did_not_win_a_gift_card/ Sugar scams Sugar scammers operate all over the internet and usually come in two varieties: advance-fee scams where the scammer will ask for a payment from you before sending you lots of money, and fake check style scams where the scammer will either pull a classic fake check scam, or will do a "bill pay" style scam that involves them paying your bills, or them giving you banking information to pay your bills. If you encounter these scammers, report their accounts and move on. Google Hangouts Google Hangouts is a messaging platform used extensively by all kinds of scammers. If you are talking with someone online and they want you to switch to Hangouts, they are likely a scammer and you should proceed with caution. Publishers Clearing House scams PCH scams are often advance-fee scams, where you will be promised lots of money after you make an initial payment. You will never need to pay if you win money from the real PCH. Pet scams You are looking for a specific breed of puppy, bird, or other pet. You come across a nice-looking website that claims to be breeding them and has some available right now - they may even be on sale! The breeders are not local to your area (and may not even list a physical location) but they assure you they can safely ship the pet to you after a deposit or full payment. If you go through with the payment, you will likely be contacted by the "shipper" who will inform you about an unexpected shipping/customs/processing fee required to deliver your new pet. But there was never any pet, both the "breeder" and the "shipper" are scammers, typically operating out of Africa. These sites are rampant and account for a large percentage of online pet seller websites - they typically have a similar layout/template (screenshot - example) If you are considering buying a pet online, some easy things to check are: (1) The registration date of the domain (if it was created recently it is likely a scam website) (2) Reverse image search the pictures of available pets - you will usually find other scam websites using the same photos. (3) Copy a sentence/section of the text from the "about us" page and put it into google (in quotes) - these scammers often copy large parts of their website's text from other places. (4) Search for the domain name and look for entries on petscams.com or other scam-tracking sites. (5) Strongly consider buying/adopting your pet from a local shelter or breeder where you can see the animal in person before putting any money down. Thanks to djscsi for this entry. Fake shipping company scams These scams usually start when you try to buy something illegal online. You will be scammed for the initial payment, and then you will receive an email from the fake shipping company telling you that you need to pay them some sort of fee or bribe. If you pay this, they will keep trying to scam you with increasingly absurd stories until you stop paying, at which point they will blackmail you. If you are involved in this scam, all you can do is ignore the scammers and move on, and try to dispute your payments if possible. Chinese Upwork scam Someone will ask you to create an Upwork or other freelancer site account for them and will offer money in return. You will not be paid, and they want to use the accounts to scam people. Quickbooks invoice scam This is a fake check style scam that takes advantage of Quickbooks. The blackmail email scam The exact wording of the emails varies, but there are generally four main parts. They claim to have placed software/malware on a porn/adult video site, they claim to have a video of you masturbating or watching porn, they threaten to release the video to your friends/family/loved ones/boss/dog, and they demand that you pay them in order for them to delete the video. Rest assured that this is a very common spam campaign and there is no truth behind the email or the threats. Here are some news articles about this scam. The blackmail mail scam This is very similar to the blackmail email scam, but you will receive a letter in the mail. Rental scams Usually on local sites like Craigslist, scammers will steal photos from legitimate real estate listings and will list them for rent at or below market rate. They will generally be hesitant to tell you the address of the property for "safety reasons" and you will not be able to see the unit. They will then ask you to pay them a deposit and they claim they will ship you the keys. In reality, your money is gone and you will have no recourse. Craigslist vehicle scams A scammer will list a vehicle on Craigslist and will offer to ship you the car. In many cases they will also falsely claim to sell you the car through eBay or Amazon. If you are looking for a car on Craigslist and the seller says anything about shipping the car, having an agent, gives you a long story about why they are selling the car, or the listing price is far too low, you are talking to a scammer and you should ignore and move on. Advance-fee scam, also known as the 419 scam, or the Nigerian prince scam. You will receive a communication from someone who claims that you are entitled to a large sum of money, or you can help them obtain a large sum of money. However, they will need money from you before you receive the large sum. Man in the middle scams Man in the middle scams are very common and very hard to detect. The scammer will impersonate a company or person you are legitimately doing business with, and they will ask you to send the money to one of their own bank accounts or one controlled by a money mule. They have gained access to the legitimate persons email address, so there will be nothing suspicious about the email. To prevent this, make contact in a different way that lets you verify that the person you are talking to is the person you think you are talking to. Digit wallet scam A variation of the fake check scam, the scammer sends you money through a digital wallet (i.e. Venmo, Apple Pay, Zelle, Cash App) along with a message claiming they've sent the money to the wrong person and a request to send the money back. Customer service for these digital wallets may even suggest that you send the money back. However, the money sent is from a stolen credit card and will be removed from your account after a few days. Your transfer is not reversed since it came from your own funds. Cam girl voting/viewer scam You will encounter a "cam girl" on a dating/messaging/social media/whatever site/app, and the scammer will ask you to go to their site and sign up with your credit card. They may offer a free show, or ask you to vote for them, or any number of other fake stories. Amateur porn recruitment scam You will encounter a "pornstar" on a dating/messaging/social media/whatever site/app, and the scammer will ask you to create an adult film with hehim, but first you need to do something. The story here is usually something to do with verifying your age, or you needing to take an STD test that involves sending money to a site operated by the scammer. Hot girl SMS spam You receive a text from a random number with a message along the lines of "Hey babe I'm here in town again if you wanted to meet up this time, are you around?" accompanied by a NSFW picture of a hot girl. It's spam, and they'll direct you to their scam website that requires a credit card. Identity verification scam You will encounter someone on a dating/messaging/social media/whatever site/app, and the scammer will ask that you verify your identity as they are worried about catfishing. The scammer operates the site, and you are not talking to whoever you think you are talking to. This type of scam teases you with something, then tries to make you sign up for something else that costs money. The company involved is often innocent, but they turn a blind eye to the practice as it helps their bottom line, even if they have to occasionally issue refunds. A common variation takes place on dating sites/dating apps, where you will match with someone who claims to be a camgirl who wants you to sign up for a site and vote for her. Another variation takes place on local sites like Craigslist, where the scammers setup fake rental scams and demand that you go through a specific service for a credit check. Once you go through with it, the scammer will stop talking to you. Another variation also takes place on local sites like Craigslist, where scammers will contact you while you are selling a car and will ask you to purchase a Carfax-like report from a specific website. Multi Level Marketing or Affiliate Marketing You apply for a vague job listing for 'sales' on craigslist. Or maybe an old friend from high school adds you on Facebook and says they have an amazing business opportunity for you. Or maybe the well dressed guy who's always interviewing people in the Starbucks that you work at asks if you really want to be slinging coffee the rest of your life. The scam: MLMs are little more than pyramid schemes. They involve buying some sort of product (usually snake oil health products like body wraps or supplements) and shilling them to your friends and family. They claim that the really money is recruiting people underneath you who give you a slice of whatever they sell. And if those people underneath you recruit more people, you get a piece of their sales. Ideally if you big enough pyramid underneath you the money will roll in without any work on your part. Failure to see any profit will be your fault for not "wanting it enough." The companies will claim that you need to buy their extra training modules or webinars to really start selling. But in reality, the vast majority of people who buy into a MLM won't see a cent. At the end of the day all you'll be doing is annoying your friends and family with your constant recruitment efforts. What to look out for: Recruiters love to be vague. They won't tell you the name of the company or what exactly the job will entail. They'll pump you up with promises of "self-generating income", "being your own boss", and "owning your own company." They might ask you to read books about success and entrepreneurs. They're hoping you buy into the dream first. If you get approached via social media, check their timelines. MLMs will often instruct their victims to pretend that they've already made it. They'll constantly post about how they're hustling and making the big bucks and linking to youtube videos about success. Again, all very vague about what their job actually entails. If you think you're being recruited: Ask them what exactly the job is. If they can't answer its probably a MLM. Just walk away.
You should generally avoid answering or engaging with random phone calls. Picking up and engaging with a scam call tells the scammers that your phone number is active, and will usually lead to more calls. Tax Call You get a call from somebody claiming to be from your countries tax agency. They say you have unpaid taxes that need to be paid immediately, and you may be arrested or have other legal action taken against you if it is not paid. This scam has caused the American IRS, Canadian CRA, British HMRC, and Australian Tax Office to issue warnings. This scam happens in a wide variety of countries all over the world. Warrant Call Very similar to the tax call. You'll get a phone call from an "agent", "officer", "sheriff", or other law enforcement officer claiming that there is a warrant out for your arrest and you will be arrested very soon. They will then offer to settle everything for a fee, usually paid in giftcards. [Legal Documents/Process Server Calls] Very similar to the warrant call. You'll get a phone call from a scammer claiming that they are going to serve you legal documents, and they will threaten you with legal consequences if you refuse to comply. They may call themselves "investigators", and will sometimes give you a fake case number. Student Loan Forgiveness Scam Scammers will call you and tell you about a student loan forgiveness program, but they are interested in obtaining private information about you or demanding money in order to join the fake program. Tech Support Call You receive a call from someone with a heavy accent claiming to be a technician Microsoft or your ISP. They inform you that your PC has a virus and your online banking and other accounts may be compromised if the virus is not removed. They'll have you type in commands and view diagnostics on your PC which shows proof of the virus. Then they'll have you install remote support software so the technician can work on your PC, remove the virus, and install security software. The cost of the labor and software can be hundreds of dollars. The scam: There's no virus. The technician isn't a technician and does not work for Microsoft or your ISP. Scammers (primarily out of India) use autodialers to cold-call everyone in the US. Any file they point out to you or command they have you run is completely benign. The software they sell you is either freeware or ineffective. What to do you if you're involved with this scam: If the scammers are remotely on your computer as you read this, turn off your PC or laptop via the power button immediately, and then if possible unplug your internet connection. Some of the more vindictive tech scammers have been known to create boot passwords on your computer if they think you've become wise to them and aren't going to pay up. Hang up on the scammers, block the number, and ignore any threats about payment. Performing a system restore on your PC is usually all that is required to remove the scammer's common remote access software. Reports of identity theft from fake tech calls are uncommon, but it would still be a good idea to change your passwords for online banking and monitor your accounts for any possible fraud. How to avoid: Ignore any calls claiming that your PC has a virus. Microsoft will never contact you. If you're unsure if a call claiming to be from your ISP is legit, hang up, and then dial the customer support number listed on a recent bill. If you have elderly relatives or family that isn't tech savvy, take the time to fill them in on this scam. Chinese government scam This scam is aimed at Chinese people living in Europe and North America, and involves a voicemail from someone claiming to be associated with the Chinese government, usually through the Chinese consulate/embassy, who is threatening legal action or making general threats. Chinese shipping scam This scam is similar to the Chinese government scam, but involves a seized/suspicious package, and the scammers will connect the victim to other scammers posing as Chinese government investigators. Social security suspension scam You will receive a call from someone claiming to work for the government regarding suspicious activity, fraud, or serious crimes connected to your social security number. You'll be asked to speak to an operator and the operator will explain the steps you need to follow in order to fix the problems. It's all a scam, and will lead to you losing money and could lead to identity theft if you give them private financial information. Utilities cutoff You get a call from someone who claims that they are from your utility company, and they claim that your utilities will be shut off unless you immediately pay. The scammer will usually ask for payment via gift cards, although they may ask for payment in other ways, such as Western Union or bitcoin. Relative in custody Scammer claims to be the police, and they have your son/daughtenephew/estranged twin in custody. You need to post bail (for some reason in iTunes gift cards or MoneyGram) immediately or the consequences will never be the same. Mexican family scam This scam comes in many different flavours, but always involves someone in your family and Mexico. Sometimes the scammer will claim that your family member has been detained, sometimes the scammer will claim that your family member has been kidnapped, and sometimes the scammer will claim that your family member is injured and needs help. General family scams Scammers will gather a large amount of information about you and target your family members using different stories with the goal of gettimg them to send money. One ring scam Scammers will call you from an international number with the goal of getting you to return their call, causing you to incur expensive calling fees.
Online shopping scams
THE GOLDEN RULE OF ONLINE SHOPPING: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Dropshipping An ad on reddit or social media sites like Facebook and Instagram offers items at huge discounts or even free (sometimes requiring you to reblog or like their page). They just ask you to pay shipping. The scam: The item will turn out to be very low quality and will take weeks or even months to arrive. Sometimes the item never arrives, and the store disappears or stops responding. The seller drop-ships the item from China. The item may only cost a few dollars, and the Chinese government actually pays for the shipping. You end up paying $10-$15 dollars for a $4 item, with the scammer keeping the profit. If you find one of these scams but really have your heart set on the item, you can find it on AliExpress or another Chinese retailer. Influencer scams A user will reach out to you on a social media platform, usually Instagram, and offer you the chance to partner with them and receive a free/discounted product, as long as you pay shipping. This is a different version of the dropshipping scam, and is just a marketing technique to get you to buy their products. Triangulation fraud Triangulation fraud occurs when you make a purchase on a site like Amazon or eBay for an item at a lower than market price, and receive an item that was clearly purchased new at full price. The scammer uses a stolen credit card to order your item, while the money from the listing is almost all profit for the scammer. Instagram influencer scams Someone will message you on Instagram asking you to promote their products, and offering you a discount code. The items are Chinese junk, and the offer is made to many people at a time. Cheap Items Many websites pop up and offer expensive products, including electronics, clothes, watches, sunglasses, and shoes at very low prices. The scam: Some sites are selling cheap knock-offs. Some will just take your money and run. What to do if you think you're involved with this scam: Contact your bank or credit card and dispute the charge. How to avoid: The sites often have every brand-name shoe or fashion item (Air Jordan, Yeezy, Gucci, etc) in stock and often at a discounted price. The site will claim to be an outlet for a major brand or even a specific line or item. The site will have images at the bottom claiming to be Secured by Norton or various official payment processors but not actual links. The site will have poor grammar and a mish-mash of categories. Recently, established websites will get hacked or their domain name jacked and turned into scam stores, meaning the domain name of the store will be completely unrelated to the items they're selling. If the deal sounds too good to be true it probably is. Nobody is offering brand new iPhones or Beats or Nintendo Switches for 75% off. Cheap Amazon 3rd Party Items You're on Amazon or maybe just Googling for an item and you see it for an unbelievable price from a third-party seller. You know Amazon has your back so you order it. The scam: One of three things usually happen: 1) The seller marks the items as shipped and sends a fake tracking number. Amazon releases the funds to the seller, and the seller disappears. Amazon ultimately refunds your money. 2) The seller immediately cancels the order and instructs you to re-order the item directly from their website, usually with the guarantee that the order is still protected by Amazon. The seller takes your money and runs. Amazon informs you that they do not offer protection on items sold outside of Amazon and cannot help you. 2) The seller immediately cancels the order and instructs you to instead send payment via an unused Amazon gift card by sending the code on the back via email. Once the seller uses the code, the money on the card is gone and cannot be refunded. How to avoid: These scammers can be identified by looking at their Amazon storefronts. They'll be brand new sellers offering a wide range of items at unbelievable prices. Usually their Amazon names will be gibberish, or a variation on FIRSTNAME.LASTNAME. Occasionally however, established storefronts will be hacked. If the deal is too good to be true its most likely a scam. Scams on eBay There are scams on eBay targeting both buyers and sellers. As a seller, you should look out for people who privately message you regarding the order, especially if they ask you to ship to a different address or ask to negotiate via text/email/a messaging service. As a buyer you should look out for new accounts selling in-demand items, established accounts selling in-demand items that they have no previous connection to (you can check their feedback history for a general idea of what they bought/sold in the past), and lookout for people who ask you to go off eBay and use another service to complete the transaction. In many cases you will receive a fake tracking number and your money will be help up for up to a month. Scams on Amazon There are scams on Amazon targeting both buyers and sellers. As a seller, you should look out for people who message you about a listing. As a buyer you should look out for listings that have an email address for you to contact the person to complete the transaction, and you should look out for cheap listings of in-demand items. Scams on Reddit Reddit accounts are frequently purchased and sold by fraudsters who wish to use the high karma count + the age of the account to scam people on buy/sell subreddits. You need to take precautions and be safe whenever you are making a transaction online. Computer scams Virus scam A popup or other ad will say that you have a virus and you need to follow their advice in order to remove it. They are lying, and either want you to install malware or pay for their software.
Chinese Brushing / direct shipping If you have ever received an unsolicited small package from China, your address was used to brush. Vendors place fake orders for their own products and send out the orders so that they can increase their ratings. Money flipping Scammer claims to be a banking insider who can double/triple/bazoople any amount of money you send them, with no consequences of any kind. Obviously, the money disappears into their wallet the moment you send it.
Bitcoin challenged my comprehension of money. and from that, governance too
Social Media hacking jokes aside for today, I thought to share a thought experiment I had on how bitcoin fundamentally challenged the way I view money forever. I was always told throughout life and even in school that money distributed by the government, managed by the government, but used amount the populus. It wasn't until I was 17 in my senior year where I learned about the in-depth concepts of money with topics such as Federal Reserve Banking (How banks make money), taxes, debt, and fiscal and monetary economy. What's funnier is that when I was 14 I heard about bitcoin, but I thought it was just an idea for some far off technology like Nuclear Fusion or Astro mining. So I'm happy to state I learned more about bitcoin before I learned about my own government monetary system. Unfortunately, It would not be for another 2 years before I learn about cryptocurrency and blockchain entirely and another few months before I can actually buy some. It was at the moment when I fully understood the concepts of bitcoin where I fell in love with it, the idea that NO government, company, or bank could just step in and take your money. No overdrafts, chargebacks, or no 3-5 days deposits. It is great. I get excited to the point I share all I can to people around me about the concept and yet they are confused like a child learning a new language because the concept of true financial responsibility and digital sovereignty can be complex to comprehend. Many of them refer to the same statements: "Money should be protected and held by the bank so I trust that it will forever be there". As I think of it more I start to think of ways how blockchain technology as a whole can be implemented into fintech (or even become the new fintech). Henry Ford once said that
" It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
It is merely with the introduction of bitcoin and decentralized finance tools when this quote incubates into fruition. Cryptocurrency as a whole puts the individual in power with the same banking tools as the whole banking collective operates on. I agree that there are many people who are fed up with the banks, and their practices but at the same time those people are even more scared to assume their own financial control due to immense responsibilities the bitcoin introduces (private key, cognitive understanding of the industry and tech). Yes, banks are here to provide a service to the public ease and use, but therein lies the question of how much freedom do people really want when they realize that they are also baring even more responsibilities than they are used to. Great power comes with great responsibility. The more financial freedom (I'm not talking about in dollar amounts, but security and accessibility ) you have over your wealth the more responsibility is needed to maintain it. So then more so this brings furthermore changed my perception that I don't have to be so reliant on centralized parties with my money, but I can own my money on the blockchain and send it anywhere where in the world as I deem fit. So this brings to my thoughts of how would blockchain systems work in government and laws. The laws are barely adapted to handle the internet as is; now they are further behind to handle blockchain. With coronavirus going around this is a testament to show how we are becoming stronger digital society. I have not been out of my home in the past few days, and most of the older ways of doing things are becoming challenged with the introduction of new technologies. The only thing that defines our governments are the lands in which was founded, discovered, or concurred by winning factions and ideals that ultimately curated most of the cultures we see today. We can speak to anyone we can on the internet in a matter of seconds, make a full-time living, we can buy nearly anything and get it delivered on the same day or week, and be associated with communities that align with our interest all online. So when these apps have more data and international relations than the governments we reside, can governments be more than just "land"? Finally, this brings into question Facebook and Libra. Facebook is one of the largest public multi-national countries on this planet, and libra in eyes of many just a software update. However, Libra shined a light on so many things I've always wondered. With as powerful as Facebook is that probably knows more about you than your government, and has more international relationships with more countries than your government, if/whenever libra is released, this now puts a corporate entity in charge of your money. And As they say, libra existing on blockchains, really can't be stopped if ever it's released. Sure governments can be banned and sue Facebook all they want, but if there are people using it, the damage is done, they can't shut down Facebook without causing an economic collapse probably one worse than the great depression. Facebook is just too big to fail. Google, Amazon are other companies seeking to challenge governance by cities for their corporate entities and employees. They most likely won't be here in the USA too much regulation, but someone where like Africa or even cities on water . All in all, as I leave, Everything I knew about finances such as mortgages, paychecks, loans, mediums of exchange, trade, and banking tools are all fundamentally challenged by the introduction of bitcoin. The power lies in those who own the system, and when no one owns the system, but everyone manages it, the real power becomes invested back into the people. With this knowledge, I know that I am truly more powerful than I thought I was, and you should feel empowered as well. Sure the infrastructure may take time before things become convenient enough for wide-scale adoption, but we are the founding fathers and mothers of the first generation in the true power of decentralized tech. We are the ones that decide on how the first implementation of this tech should be used, and that's all by experimentation. I agree that it will be a daunting task and scary for those who are not familiar with this. Like all things that exist it starts with experimentation.
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